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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 19:22:52 GMT
As far as mental illness goes, it can be problematic when one hears a voice and does not know where or who it comes from. Is it illness, God or an evil spirit? Does that depend on the content and tone of the voice? How do you know when God speaks to you? Can he speak to you in other ways? I can think of times he has maybe spoken to me, without me knowing. But did not think of it in that way when it happened.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 19:30:25 GMT
As far as mental illness goes, it can be problematic when one hears a voice and does not know where or who it comes from. Is it illness, God or an evil spirit? Does that depend on the content and tone of the voice? How do you know when God speaks to you? Can he speak to you in other ways? I can think of times he has maybe spoken to me, without me knowing. But did not think of it in that way when it happened. Why is God a He? Yes, very hard to distinguish as to what is mental illness & what is genuine spiritual experience. i would distinguish it all however. It is all however i would wager understandable within certain integral models. i like to to look at the entire field of history, comparative religion / spirituality. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godfrey_Higgins#Principal_works
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 19:58:04 GMT
Am sure God is genderless, but that is the pronoun I am used to hearing when describing God.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 20:00:21 GMT
Am sure God is genderless, but that is the pronoun I am used to hearing when describing God. Maybe start describing God as a Black Woman. See what people say?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 20:36:33 GMT
I don't think God is an old man with a beard. Is just how people have perceived it. And let's face it men command more respect in this world, and always have. So was 'natural' for God to be seen as a 'he'.
I think most people would see the idea of a black woman being God as ridiculous.. but no more ridiculous than them being a man. Given that they made all of Creation, according to Christianity, they are not likely to take the form of a human. There must be many species out there..that is in the universe.
I am just used to saying 'He'.
The main thing is what 'He' has done and does, rather than what form 'He' takes.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 21:30:54 GMT
I don't think God is an old man with a beard. Is just how people have perceived it. And let's face it men command more respect in this world, and always have. So was 'natural' for God to be seen as a 'he'. I think most people would see the idea of a black woman being God as ridiculous.. but no more ridiculous than them being a man. Given that they made all of Creation, according to Christianity, they are not likely to take the form of a human. There must be many species out there..that is in the universe. I am just used to saying 'He'. The main thing is what 'He' has done and does, rather than what form 'He' takes. i have increasingly taken issue with all religions / spiritual systems, i think that all of it is largely all made up. i think it's very hard to categorically know / state what the full extent of all that is / truth & reality is. The extent of all that is; the entirety of all truth & reality, is likely to be so vast that i can't see how all human knowledge / imagination / wisdom / experience - all mythology, religions, spirituality, science & philosophy is barely scratching the surface with it all. Humanity itself i'd wager is less than a grain of sand in the circle of Life & yet the human Ego / arrogance is enormous. i think that we have barley even begun to evolve a deeper understanding of the whole of truth & reality - there is so much that we simply do not know. We're on this tiny blue speck within an incomprehensibly vast cosmos / reality, within a very small sliver of time. & as a species of naked ape, i really do wonder what our actual ability / potential to come to a deeper understanding of everything really is?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 21:48:32 GMT
No matter how we Christians mess it up--- Jesus still draws people.
That's the important thing. All the other issues are secondary.
Just get to know Jesus. He's good.
I didn't become some radical conservative Republican the moment I accepted Jesus. And many who accept Jesus never do.
But knowing Jesus is the important part. Because He's worth knowing.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 22:17:49 GMT
I don't think God is an old man with a beard. Is just how people have perceived it. And let's face it men command more respect in this world, and always have. So was 'natural' for God to be seen as a 'he'. I think most people would see the idea of a black woman being God as ridiculous.. but no more ridiculous than them being a man. Given that they made all of Creation, according to Christianity, they are not likely to take the form of a human. There must be many species out there..that is in the universe. I am just used to saying 'He'. The main thing is what 'He' has done and does, rather than what form 'He' takes. i tend to agree with the mystics - that infinity is incomprehensible to the mind / intellect / ego. The 'idea' of Samadhi. That Self / God realization / Enlightenment / Gnosis etc - is beyond the Ego (identification with / as mind / body / emotions) & shows also why it is so rare.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 22:35:15 GMT
Radical Love & Forgiveness. www.renewedassembly.com/radical-forgiveness-love-for-your-enemies/tarajohnsonstories.com/radical-love-radical-forgiveness/i get put off by Christianity with all the Devil / Demon / Hell / Judgement / Damnation stuff. & as the only true religion / path. i also look at the history of Christianity & it doesn't seem very loving on the whole. Seems that so much of the Bible has also been changed / altered. i look at things going on in the World & how much of so many troubles, sectarianism, violence, hatred, war & death are religiously motivated. Christ as a teaching for unity consciousness / radical love & forgiveness, non judgement, service to all life, OK. Thank you for this reminder. It's hard to perform acts of kindness to people who are mistreating you. But that's what Jesus did so I must also. That's what I'm going through right now. It'd be so easy to just lose my temper and give up. But it's not just about me.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 22:43:55 GMT
Just to be clear, I am a novice reader of the Bible. You will have more knowledge of the texts than me, Admin. But as far as Christians go, have met loving and non loving ones. i think that you would be far better off reading things like - The Gnosis and the Law by Tellis S. Papastavro The Mukhya Upanishads & The Rigveda The Secret Doctrine by Helena Blavatsky Anacalypsis by Godfrey Higgins The Collected Works of C. G. Jung Buddha: His Life, His Doctrine, His Order by Hermann Oldenberg The Great Initiates: A Study of the Secret History of Religions by édouard Schuré
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2020 22:48:13 GMT
Thank you for this reminder. It's hard to perform acts of kindness to people who are mistreating you. But that's what Jesus did so I must also. That's what I'm going through right now. It'd be so easy to just lose my temper and give up. But it's not just about me. i don't think that Christ was meek & mild & apathetic - certainly not with smashing up the temple of the money lenders & other actions. i'd have him down more as a radical revolutionary. Matthew 10:34 34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
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Post by Admin on Mar 31, 2020 0:35:22 GMT
No matter how we Christians mess it up--- Jesus still draws people. That's the important thing. All the other issues are secondary. Just get to know Jesus. He's good. I didn't become some radical conservative Republican the moment I accepted Jesus. And many who accept Jesus never do. But knowing Jesus is the important part. Because He's worth knowing. i'm not sure that there is as much debate & argument within any other religion as there is with Christianity as to what a True Christian is / isn't, & as to the proper interpretation of the Bible / Christ's teachings. i think that the entire system & everything connected to it all has failed on this planet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 5:48:51 GMT
No matter how we Christians mess it up--- Jesus still draws people. That's the important thing. All the other issues are secondary. Just get to know Jesus. He's good. I didn't become some radical conservative Republican the moment I accepted Jesus. And many who accept Jesus never do. But knowing Jesus is the important part. Because He's worth knowing. i'm not sure that there is as much debate & argument within any other religion as there is with Christianity as to what a True Christian is / isn't, & as to the proper interpretation of the Bible / Christ's teachings. i think that the entire system & everything connected to it all has failed on this planet. What you do with the system, I don't necessarily care. It's whether you respond to the Person of Jesus that is my encouragement. I did not embrace the entire Christian worldview all at once. But I encountered Jesus through the loving behavior of a teacher. A system cannot help. He must become real in some form or fashion. The fact that you still like Jesus despite the muck of Christian Church history is wonderful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 5:56:13 GMT
Lord, thank you for Admin and Blueberry.
I consider them dear friends.
They are discussing the things of God, each on a journey to find healing.
Because of your mercy, Jesus, and for the advancement of the Kingdom, please deal with them graciously. Forgive any sin and bless them just like you've blessed me.
Heal them, mind, body, and soul. Let them experience a supernatural wholeness.
Heal them of any and all emotional trauma.
Reverse any generational curses. Push back any demonic oppression and strongholds with your hosts of angels.
Perform Your will in their lives in such a way that it could only be You. For your namesake, I consider all of this done in Jesus' name.
I bind up the strong man and take over the houses in the matchless name of Jesus' Christ. Let the reversal of their Fortune be dramatic, just like it was for me.
Amen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2020 7:43:01 GMT
No matter how we Christians mess it up--- Jesus still draws people. That's the important thing. All the other issues are secondary. Just get to know Jesus. He's good. I didn't become some radical conservative Republican the moment I accepted Jesus. And many who accept Jesus never do. But knowing Jesus is the important part. Because He's worth knowing. I agree he is worth knowing, but I also agree with Admin, no harm can come from reading about other belief systems like Hinduism and things like Buddhism. Don't think I will ever be a Republican, am not even a fan of the Democrats, do not see them as socialists. Is true you get bad politicians from all parts of the political 'spectrum' as it is perceived, from extreme left to the extreme right. I still think Jesus was more of a socialist than on the right. Everyone messes it up, none of us are perfect. I was reading the other day that even Jesus said He wasn't, only His Father. I don't mind what people believe, although obviously I want them to have a peaceful future after they have died. But is their choice. We have free will.
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