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Post by Admin on Dec 25, 2018 11:20:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 17:00:36 GMT
Is this when or not when taking antipsychotics? The drugs are emotional inhibitors.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2018 17:05:09 GMT
"Religious paranoid delusions: "Demons are watching me, following me, waiting to punish me if I do anything they don't like," or "If I put on my shoes, God will set them on fire to punish me, so I have to go barefoot all the time.""
Sounds a bit like my OCD has in the past.. I wonder where the crossover point between these two conditions really lies.
Is more an omnipresent evil than one following me, though, if that is the persecutory and paranoid element I do not know.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 11:47:37 GMT
Sounds a bit like my OCD has in the past.. I wonder where the crossover point between these two conditions really lies. Is more an omnipresent evil than one following me, though, if that is the persecutory and paranoid element I do not know. No doubt that that everything within the realms of the psyche / mental health has cross overs from a more differential, holistic, integrated & whole person viewpoint. There are a number of things that may be going on here - & it is very hard to pinpoint categorically - it is very likely to be multi-factorial. 1. Part of a brain disorder / biological condition as mainstream biomedical psychiatry / neurology says it is. 2. Part of the areas of spirit attachment - it is well worth looking into this area - www.spiritrelease.org/background/attachments.phpThe book 'Soul Centred Healing' by Tom Zinser is well worth a read, as it does give a very good overview of a larger picture of the reality of the psyche. Working with alternative / spiritual healers & finding someone who is genuinely competent within all these areas is i think a mine field. 3. The Guardian of the Threshold & the Daemon (classical mythology) Guardian of the Threshold en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_of_the_ThresholdDaemon (classical mythology) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology)4. This World is Dark - it exists (imo) in some kind of Spiritually Dark Age / system matrix. Some people are far more aware of the background evil in it all. The Demiurge - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DemiurgeThe Alien Matrix Control System - montalk.net/The Kali Yuga en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 12:17:02 GMT
Thank you. xxx
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 12:35:43 GMT
It sound counter intuitive - But sometimes accepting, embracing, working with & integrating these energies & forces can help. There is a certain wisdom within some of the occult & esoteric areas. Lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesser_banishing_ritual_of_the_pentagramThe Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram: A 21st Century Grimoire by Michael Benjamin - is a good book on the subject. scarletimprint.com/i have found it a help to read up on what traditional cultures have said about all these areas.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 12:40:10 GMT
Loads of Books on the subject -
Magical Healing: A Health Survival Guide for Magicians and Healers by Josephine McCarthy
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 12:56:14 GMT
Part of OCD is facing your fears and dealing with them. I tend to run away from problems which is probably why I am still stuck in the same loop.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 13:02:21 GMT
Part of OCD is facing your fears and dealing with them. I tend to run away from problems which is probably why I am still stuck in the same loop. It can maybe help to just try & re-frame certain things. i know it is hard to do. This life is Duality - there is maybe something to be said for trying to embrace this fact & take a more non-dualism perspective & attitude to it all.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 16:06:53 GMT
Yes, a lot of where my OCD type thinking comes from is Westernised and Hollywood/fictional ideas of Good and Evil.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 16:23:03 GMT
Yes, a lot of where my OCD type thinking comes from is Westernised and Hollywood/fictional ideas of Good and Evil. Probably the same for a lot of people, & most people i doubt ever even seriously question any of it all either.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 16:34:32 GMT
Yes, a lot of where my OCD type thinking comes from is Westernised and Hollywood/fictional ideas of Good and Evil. For me there is a truth within the non dual teachings - beyond all the exoteric & all the levels of myth, symbol, analogy, metaphor & allegory. The perennial, non-dual understanding that lies at the heart of all the great religious and spiritual traditions, such as Advaita Vedanta, Kashmir Shivaism, Hinduism and Buddhism, Mystical Christianity, Sufism, Zen etc., and which is also the direct, ever-present reality of our own experience. shantisadan.org/Study symbolism a bit deeper, & you will see that this society / culture is run on symbols. This Age is more Mythological than any other. What underlays the senses / the material World?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 16:37:36 GMT
Well it scared the shit out of me when I was 17, but the idea of an omnipresent evil that can punish you for not doing what they want is unsettling. Maybe my strength of belief in it was more a symptom of psychosis than OCD and the doctors got it wrong? But one is classified as a neurosis and the other psychosis, so am back to the original question, where does one end and the other begin? It is a very medical model type way of thinking, and not really taking everything into account.
Best to think outside the box really, but people are so lacking in understanding around the whole 'psychosis' thing, once again Hollywood has a part to play there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2018 16:46:29 GMT
Symbolism, have done this with a brief introduction to semiotics in the media at uni, and can see a lot of it going on. The name Roland Barthes springs to mind. It was a few years ago now though.
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Post by Admin on Dec 26, 2018 16:54:28 GMT
Well it scared the shit out of me when I was 17, but the idea of an omnipresent evil that can punish you for not doing what they want is unsettling. Maybe my strength of belief in it was more a symptom of psychosis than OCD and the doctors got it wrong? But one is classified as a neurosis and the other psychosis, so am back to the original question, where does one end and the other begin? It is a very medical model type way of thinking, and not really taking everything into account.
Best to think outside the box really, but people are so lacking in understanding around the whole 'psychosis' thing, once again Hollywood has a part to play there.
i don't think that anyone really understands my experiences & what i experienced aged 17 that lead to the first hospitalisation. But then how could they, they are Not me & haven't experienced it. That it has been labelled & treated & considered to be various things according to different understandings doesn't explain it. In large part i think it was a visionary experience of seeing a deeper level of the reality in which we exist in, & all the reading & research that i have done into the deeper esoteric / occult / shamanic / mystical / alternative areas over the past 30 years does corroborate it all. Not to say that there hasn't also been / is an illness aspect to it all as well. Age 17 at the time of the experience i feel that i needed a lot of proper understanding, care, help & support to work through & integrate it all. OK lets accept that there is a variable pathology to these conditions / experiences & a role for psychiatry, hospitals, treatment & medication, but why is there such a taboo around & such a fear & block around allowing people to openly discuss the content of what they are experiencing? This is part of what i find so very odd with it all. Allowed areas of speech / subjects does appear to be very highly conditioned, & only allowed within very narrow & sanctioned areas & ranges. It is something that has always bemused me. A lot of people get very upset if you go outside of the conditioned / allowed speech parameters. Why? Certain speech, emotions, states of consciousness & behaviours is outlawed & very strictly punished. & what passes as 'normal'? Outright sickness.
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