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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2020 2:07:58 GMT
Why Are Rich People So Mean? Call it Rich Asshole Syndrome—the tendency to distance yourself from people with whom you have a large wealth differential. "Ever since our ancestors started to congregate into large agriculturally based settlements with hierarchies of power and wealth in which the many worked to enrich the few, such a system has been justified by a belief in the general perfidy of human nature. Judeo-christian tradition concocted the notion of human original sin, with the tendency to selfishness, sin and evil being innate in all human beings, inherited from Adam as a consequence of the Fall from Grace in the Garden of Eden. God, being the ultimate law maker and keeper of order, through the Ten Commandments gave authority to the propertied few to watch over the masses to make sure they don't envy or take their possessions. The lessons passed along by thousands of generations of our foraging ancestors, whose survival depended on developing social webs of mutual aid showed that selfishness leads only to death: first social and ultimately biological. While the neo-Hobbesians struggle to explain how human altruism can exist, other scientists question their premise, asking if there’s any functional utility to selfishness. “Given how much is to be gained through generosity,” says Robb Willer, “social scientists increasingly wonder less why people are ever generous and more why they are ever selfish.” Decades of “greed is good” messaging has sought to remove a sense of shame from being a beneficiary of outrageous extremes of wealth inequality. Still, the shame lingers, because the messaging runs up against one of our species’ deepest innate values. Institutions seeking to justify a fundamentally anti-human economic system constantly rebroadcast the message that winning the money game will bring satisfaction and happiness. But we’ve got around 300,000 years of ancestral experience telling us it just isn’t so. Selfishness may be essential to civilization, but that only raises the question of whether a civilization so out of step with our evolved nature makes sense for the human beings within it. The ruling class label the non-propertied as being feckless and lazy. They constantly lament that people perversely have to be coerced into working to increase the wealth of the propertied class. What makes the ruling class tick? Opinion differs as to why so many of them tend to be assholes. Does being an asshole make them rich or does being rich make them assholes?" www.wired.com/story/why-are-rich-people-so-mean/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 5:49:41 GMT
Why Are Rich People So Mean? Call it Rich Asshole Syndrome—the tendency to distance yourself from people with whom you have a large wealth differential. "Ever since our ancestors started to congregate into large agriculturally based settlements with hierarchies of power and wealth in which the many worked to enrich the few, such a system has been justified by a belief in the general perfidy of human nature. Judeo-christian tradition concocted the notion of human original sin, with the tendency to selfishness, sin and evil being innate in all human beings, inherited from Adam as a consequence of the Fall from Grace in the Garden of Eden. God, being the ultimate law maker and keeper of order, through the Ten Commandments gave authority to the propertied few to watch over the masses to make sure they don't envy or take their possessions. The lessons passed along by thousands of generations of our foraging ancestors, whose survival depended on developing social webs of mutual aid showed that selfishness leads only to death: first social and ultimately biological. While the neo-Hobbesians struggle to explain how human altruism can exist, other scientists question their premise, asking if there’s any functional utility to selfishness. “Given how much is to be gained through generosity,” says Robb Willer, “social scientists increasingly wonder less why people are ever generous and more why they are ever selfish.” Decades of “greed is good” messaging has sought to remove a sense of shame from being a beneficiary of outrageous extremes of wealth inequality. Still, the shame lingers, because the messaging runs up against one of our species’ deepest innate values. Institutions seeking to justify a fundamentally anti-human economic system constantly rebroadcast the message that winning the money game will bring satisfaction and happiness. But we’ve got around 300,000 years of ancestral experience telling us it just isn’t so. Selfishness may be essential to civilization, but that only raises the question of whether a civilization so out of step with our evolved nature makes sense for the human beings within it. The ruling class label the non-propertied as being feckless and lazy. They constantly lament that people perversely have to be coerced into working to increase the wealth of the propertied class. What makes the ruling class tick? Opinion differs as to why so many of them tend to be assholes. Does being an asshole make them rich or does being rich make them assholes?" www.wired.com/story/why-are-rich-people-so-mean/I think the 10 commandments were created because things were getting so out of hand at the time. Jesus wiped away the debt of sin. And rich men are going to find it very difficult to enter the kingdom of Heaven as I remember. It certainly isn't a justification for rich people hoarding money. The rich people should be giving their possessions away and giving to the poor. In Acts rich people who are said to be filled with the Holy Spirit sell their possessions to give to those in need. You can take one part of the Bible and apply it as you like. But it doesn't mean you are right. I suppose that's the problem a lot of people have with the Bible. But if you read on you will see an example of how people filled with God's love behave. They don't hoard wealth, they give it away or sell what they have to help those who need it. You can call the Holy Spirit what you like, no need to stick to the Biblical version. The point is if you are spiritually aware or healthy you don't hoard wealth or crave it. And I think rich people are the worst for craving another's wealth, competing with them for it and fighting over land. Most ordinary people are just struggling to make ends meet. The system that creates obscene wealth encourages coveting material things. Money is power and power corrupts those who have it. I suppose the more money you have the more corrupt and selfish you become. But is nothing to do with God or being spiritually aware. It does appear that becoming rich makes people assholes if you look at how money seems to change them. Even from a simplistic perspective, you look at celebrities who came from council estates, used to hate the establishment and the Tories, now they love them. They look down on the people they grew up with.. and don't want to pay tax to help them.
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2020 9:33:20 GMT
Story of Jesus Christ was 'fabricated to pacify the poor', claims controversial Biblical scholar Christianity was a sophisticated government propaganda exercise used to pacify the subjects of a the Roman Empire, claims scholar Rob Williams @bobjwilliams Thursday 10 October 2013 09:46 www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/story-of-jesus-christ-was-fabricated-to-pacify-the-poor-claims-controversial-biblical-scholar-8870879.htmli'm just not sure about the whole Bible / Christian Religion. Something about it all doesn't entirely make sense to me. i prefer elements of the Ancient Vedic mysticism, & in English culture the Pagan Celtic Druid. i think that we're going into Global ecological / civilization collapse - everything will just carry on as it is - the rich & arsholes will survive the longest. A lot of the World is already in collapse, we just haven't been hit more by it all yet. What's incredible to me is how the vast majority of people largely go along with the system - they look up to the rich / establishment / believe the media & accept the way everything is. i suppose that people feel more love & admiration for the rich & the people in power than they do the poor. Incredible to me after 10 years of Tory Austerity how a lot of the working class in the UK are now working class Tories, same in the USA with Trump & Republicanism. People love their servitude.
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2020 12:44:26 GMT
i think that we're going into Global ecological / civilization collapse - everything will just carry on as it is - the rich & arsholes will survive the longest. A lot of the World is already in collapse, we just haven't been hit more by it all yet. Capitalism is destroying ‘safe operating space’ for humanity, warn scientists medium.com/insurge-intelligence/capitalism-is-eroding-safe-operating-space-for-humanity-warn-scientists-6e469132dbbaThe COVID19 pandemic has exposed a strange anomaly in the global economy. If it doesn’t keep growing endlessly, it just breaks. Grow, or die. But there’s a deeper problem. New scientific research confirms that capitalism’s structural obsession with endless growth is destroying the very conditions for human survival on planet Earth. A landmark study in the journal Nature Communications, “Scientists’ warning on affluence” — by scientists in Australia, Switzerland and the UK — concludes that the most fundamental driver of environmental destruction is the overconsumption of the super-rich.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2020 20:33:32 GMT
I don't think it matters whether you agree with it or believe, it's more that the idea that the Bible justifies people hoarding wealth. That isn't what it says. You might think it is all made up, but is what the person is saying in the article that that comment was relating to. Anyone can say it's made up. As is written by people. And we can't know everything. That doesn't mean it is made up, but is up to you what you believe and how you feel about it. And yes, people love their servitude. I suppose this whole virus crisis has taught us that we will do what we are told in the right circumstances, regardless of any dissenting voices. Covid 19 is presented as a deadly virus and because we are protecting others as well as ourselves by obeying the rules, we do what we are told, because we feel thinking of everyone is right. We do it without question. If it turns out that the risk of contracting the coronavirus is much lower than we are told, you have to wonder what it was really about. The point is given the right circumstances, anyone can be manipulated to do what someone else wants them to do. We are all susceptible to that.. I think.
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2020 21:45:11 GMT
Anyone can say it's made up. As is written by people. And we can't know everything. That doesn't mean it is made up, but is up to you what you believe and how you feel about it. i think it's very hard to know what the categorical truth is of any / all religious / spiritual writings / claims. Thousands of Gods / religious beliefs / practices / rituals etc are lost to history or become part of World mythology. In another 500 years time maybe all the current World religions have gone the same way & are all seen as mythology as well? Anyone can say that anything not provable is made up & make anything up about reality - we're back with the hard science question. Until we are fully physically dead i don't think that we can know what comes after physical death. A lot of what we believe is largely dependent on when & where we are born, our conditioning, & the experiences & influences we are exposed to.
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Post by naominash3 on Jul 4, 2020 22:54:44 GMT
Anyone can say it's made up. As is written by people. And we can't know everything. That doesn't mean it is made up, but is up to you what you believe and how you feel about it. i think it's very hard to know what the categorical truth is of any / all religious / spiritual writings / claims. Thousands of Gods / religious beliefs / practices / rituals etc are lost to history or become part of World mythology. In another 500 years time maybe all the current World religions have gone the same way & are all seen as mythology as well? Anyone can say that anything not provable is made up & make anything up about reality - we're back with the hard science question. Until we are fully physically dead i don't think that we can know what comes after physical death. A lot of what we believe is largely dependent on when & where we are born, our conditioning, & the experiences & influences we are exposed to. And I think people are stubborn in their ways.
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2020 23:08:45 GMT
And I think people are stubborn in their ways. They are - including you. People generally are conditioned / set into a certain way of thinking / belief system quite early on, & it sets like clay often very quickly with most people & they never really seriously examine it all again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 7:44:54 GMT
i think that we're going into Global ecological / civilization collapse - everything will just carry on as it is - the rich & arsholes will survive the longest. A lot of the World is already in collapse, we just haven't been hit more by it all yet. Capitalism is destroying ‘safe operating space’ for humanity, warn scientists medium.com/insurge-intelligence/capitalism-is-eroding-safe-operating-space-for-humanity-warn-scientists-6e469132dbbaThe COVID19 pandemic has exposed a strange anomaly in the global economy. If it doesn’t keep growing endlessly, it just breaks. Grow, or die. But there’s a deeper problem. New scientific research confirms that capitalism’s structural obsession with endless growth is destroying the very conditions for human survival on planet Earth. A landmark study in the journal Nature Communications, “Scientists’ warning on affluence” — by scientists in Australia, Switzerland and the UK — concludes that the most fundamental driver of environmental destruction is the overconsumption of the super-rich. What a surprise. Marx was right after all. Capitalism has to keep exploiting new markets and if not it cannot survive. Either it goes, or we go. Which will it be?
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