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Post by flyingcarpet on Jul 18, 2022 11:12:05 GMT
Just as with Double's exposure of the APA's response to the hunger strikers.
But, i guess, the internet allows for far wider dissemination.
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2022 11:21:19 GMT
Just as with Double's exposure of the APA's response to the hunger strikers. But, i guess, the internet allows for far wider dissemination. i think the internet can get very myopic with all the algorithms. People are shown what they want to see. When i argued anti / critical / alternative psychiatry for 20 years it felt like i was up against a lot. Same with arguing for left wing / green politics & Global Systemic Alternatives.
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 18, 2022 12:16:28 GMT
Agree about algorithm
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 18, 2022 12:24:51 GMT
Arguments go for key points - soundbites - which others pick up on and add to with their own opinions unaware/ignoring detail.
I can see this happening with Davies' research. But Davies emphasizes that he is not denigrating the seriousness of symptoms nor the helpfulness of some drugs for some people.
But anti-psychiatrists will latch onto it. As will pro psychiatrists quote the APA re the hunger strike.
Many fators come into play. I was going to say 'power relations' but that's too vague.
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 18, 2022 12:31:48 GMT
Temp has gone up to 32° here, phone informs me.
There were temps like this in 1976 but someone has posted images to show that the global spread today is substatially greater.
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2022 14:17:35 GMT
Arguments go for key points - soundbites - which others pick up on and add to with their own opinions unaware/ignoring detail. I can see this happening with Davies' research. But Davies emphasizes that he is not denigrating the seriousness of symptoms nor the helpfulness of some drugs for some people. But anti-psychiatrists will latch onto it. As will pro psychiatrists quote the APA re the hunger strike. Many fators come into play. I was going to say 'power relations' but that's too vague. There is always going to be the hard & soft science argument - all the arguments between biology, psychology, sociology & spirituality & within & between World religions / non religious spirituality & Atheism. i can cognize an all inclusive integral model / universalist perspective - But a majority don't seem able to / capable of it. Until people can reach more of a universalist model i think that mental health / psychiatry / pharma as well as religions / spirituality & politics / nationalism / race etc is always going to be beset by the same controversy's, divisions & polemics.
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2022 14:18:48 GMT
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 18, 2022 16:45:38 GMT
I'm going to defend 'the people' again. I don't think it's a question of capability - although I know there are theories of out unevolved state.
I think it has much more to do with the dynamics of our society - how it's organised, the 'influencers', the powerful.
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Post by Admin on Jul 18, 2022 16:55:06 GMT
I'm going to defend 'the people' again. I don't think it's a question of capability - although I know there are theories of out unevolved state. I think it has much more to do with the dynamics of our society - how it's organised, the 'influencers', the powerful. & yet it's the masses that always listen to & follow the Hitler's / Trump's / Boris's / Mussolini's / the 1% Elite etc - it's Symbiotic - every Bloody time.
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 19, 2022 6:06:47 GMT
Who we listen to, take notice of, is not straightforward. It's something we pick up on and develop/acquire through our life's experiences, imo.
Is there some inner soul guiding us individually? Or some inherited/evolved intelligence? Maybe but I prefer to see people in the context of their lives. eg what events may have led someone to think and behave the way they do (interconnectedness/non duality)
This kind of questioning arose while trying to make sense of my first psychotic experience
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Jul 19, 2022 6:13:22 GMT
Yes. As you say, symbiotic.
But so much we don't fully know about existence, humans. Are there a few elect souls or are we in it altogether but with 'guides', for better/worse ( hitler trump etc. And good ones? Not coming so easily to mind).
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Post by abm820 on Nov 16, 2022 4:57:46 GMT
Thank you for this informative article.
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