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Post by Admin on Apr 7, 2020 9:56:53 GMT
i have considered this & in a general sense i feel this is best for the forum -
No proselytizing! meaning, don't force someone else to believe what you believe.
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2020 13:53:09 GMT
The rules / criteria for the forum are very clear - anyone proselytizing in any form will receive an immediate ban.
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Post by Admin on Mar 16, 2021 17:13:44 GMT
From the Families of Schizophrenia Support Group -
Hello Folks, it seems like our group goes through phases where many members feel they must publicly proclaim and demonstrate their faith by offering prayers or praising their creator. We’ve also seen a few posts criticizing our rules regarding this. While I may fail miserably, I will attempt, AGAIN, to explain why we have this rule without using too many of the words we don’t like, for clarity. Faith based discussion can trigger some of our members so we have gradually reduced what is tolerated regarding those declarations to the point of zero tolerance. Why, because it’s constantly violated. Give an inch, take a mile basically. It’s easier and cleaner if we just don’t allow any of it.
Now, the thing that confuses me is why when someone is asked not to do something in a certain situation, that person loses all rationale so as to think that they are being told they can’t do it anywhere else in their lives. Is it really so offensive to request that one not use words that could trigger someone else and cause them harm? While it may not cause you harm, is it so difficult to consider that someone else might be hurt? We aren’t asking you to denounce your faith, nor are we asking you to not speak of it anywhere else in your life. Merely that you not do it here, in any form. There are numerous ways to show ones faith and offer support. “Positive thoughts, good luck, thinking of you” are just a few. We expect everyone in our group to be mature and considerate of all our members, not just the one your offering support to.
Which brings me to the posts and comments we’ve had recently criticizing our groups rules and our Moderators. This angers me. Those that have done this have blatantly violated the very rules they are questioning, intentionally. This is very petty, selfish and inconsiderate because you’re using the very words we don’t allow because you can’t tolerate being forced to be considerate of others. This usually occurs with Christians, sorry but it’s true. I’ve not had any Buddhist, Muslim, Taoist or whatever question this. ONLY CHRISTIANS. Now I know this is going to anger those people, and I wish it wouldn’t but I have to be honest. Why do you think you’re entitled to express your beliefs anywhere and everywhere regardless of anyone else? That’s not Christ like, that’s selfish human behavior. Now you may not like what I’ve said here, and that’s ok, you don’t have to. And if you’d like to discuss it further PM one of us but do NOT take this discussion to the group. This post is simply trying to give you a very simple explanation of an, unfortunately all to common, rule.
So to reiterate, WE WILL NOT TOLERATE VIOLATING RULE 8. Period. You’ll be muted, or banned. Feel free to worship any way you please, just not in this group.
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2021 13:33:18 GMT
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2021 13:56:33 GMT
People are free to discuss what they like on the forum now - i'm not going to try & moderate any of it in the relevant sections
If people want to proselytize, discuss the devil / demons / hell / final judgment / damnation / the Bible / Christian cosmology & prophesy / Armageddon etc then they are free to
If people want to discuss Christianity / Islam / Judaism / Buddhism / Hinduism - they are free to discuss anything they like
Climate change denial / Trump & Boris supporters - anything now - am not controlling it all
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Post by snowstorm on Dec 13, 2021 20:57:21 GMT
I am interested to know why you changed your mind on this?
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2021 21:50:24 GMT
I am interested to know why you changed your mind on this? World religious / Atheist discussion is rife in society & all over the internet & so what is the difference allowing it all here? Same with all the political arguments across the entire political spectrum, & conspiracy theories - same again, as long it's not personal attack / abuse / threats of violence - better to allow people to discuss whatever they like.
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Post by Admin on Dec 13, 2021 21:51:24 GMT
I am interested to know why you changed your mind on this? No one is going to agree to the forum rules / ethos / project plan / source documents anyway - so again better to simply allow any & all discussion.
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Post by snowstorm on Dec 20, 2021 20:31:46 GMT
There is nothing wrong with changing your mind, that's for sure. Lots of difficulties, including in government, are because people won't change their mind even with new information---!
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Dec 22, 2021 11:56:45 GMT
You may gain more members and possibility lose some (one). I don't want to login to be rattled and feel I have to respond/challenge whatever views a person feels they want to express and in whatever way just because that's the way of things are these days.A free for all. Havent got the energy nor the wish to be constantly engaging
Of course I can to some extent just ignore some posts .But is it worthwhile ? Having said that it's a Buddhist teaching that comes to mind - which seeds in the garden of our subconscious are we encouraging into growth by, say, the company we keep?
But moderating, from what I gather, can difficult and stressful.
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Post by Admin on Dec 22, 2021 12:00:41 GMT
But moderating, from what I gather, can difficult and stressful. It's a nightmare & what am i meant to do around it all?
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Dec 22, 2021 18:55:17 GMT
I dont know. Try what you are proposing and see what happens ?
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Post by Admin on Dec 22, 2021 19:03:23 GMT
I dont know. Try what you are proposing and see what happens ? For whatever the reasons - the result of the way i have run & posted on this forum over the past 10 or so years has resulted in very few people posting here & the project going virtually nowhere.
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Post by flyingcarpet46 on Dec 22, 2021 20:15:53 GMT
Sadly, I think that's a situation with forums, blogs, and zoom events. I
dont think it has much to do with the way you run/organise the site. I think it possibly has more to do with the overload on individuals of all the posting on the internet together with the speed with which we are required to respond - unless we have what we want to say at our fingertips there's no time to think deeply and carefully consider our own posts.
At least that is how I'm finding the internet. Overload But maybe this is a generational thing - having being used to what I understand is snail mail 🥺
I also wonder if people visiting a healing sanctuaries site might be looking for information about existing sancturies rather than debate around healing and sancuaries and mental health experience and support generally ? While people looking for that debate may not think to visit a site on 'healing sanctuary' although this I guess is what both you and I want of mental health support/provision/systems ?
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