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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 11:48:50 GMT
Christianity
Is weird.
Sometimes I forget. I think about the incredible folks in my circle. I get offended by those who level accusations at us.
I forget how weird Christianity seemed to me growing up.
What's with all the different beliefs?
Why are so many trying to get rich?
Why do some speak in tongues and others say that has ceased?
What's with those uncomfortable collars?
Why is everyone trying to be different?
What about other religions? I mean, are they really all going to hell? Seems a bit harsh.
I forget all the questions I had. How weird the Bible can be.
Christianity as we know it in the world is strange. Much of it is like a store in the mall.
Many people are trying to get rich
Many child molesters, porn addicts, and hustlers are in leadership positions.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2020 11:58:19 GMT
It may be easier for us if I refrain for now. But thank you very much. It's okay. I am rather unskilled in addressing certain areas and questions. Thank you for understanding. This forum / platform is very limited. i felt very strongly & still do that the general ways that i have been treated with my mental health condition have not been very good. i have felt very strongly that the general understandings & approaches / treatment to mental health should be a lot better. i have tried to argue for & campaign for what i feel are better understandings & approaches to all these areas. i am however a service user / layman / sufferer / survivor - i have no professional health qualifications, i am not a therapist / psychologist / health professional. i can't offer professional mental health services - only a simply discussion forum, & my own personal flawed opinion / perspective on things. i've increasingly given up with fighting the system / arguing for a different system in the same way. There is a lot of division & hate on the internet. Anyone can find links / information / groups for any argument that they like - anyone can create a platform for their own views. i have tried my best to remain impartial & try & do something to help the suffering of the mentally ill. All said & done i am someone with long term / severe mental health difficulties, who has set up & run this site on my own, & have continuing struggles. i can't do more than what i have presented. People can take it or leave & make up their own mind on everything. i don't know how to address more fully certain arguments / conflicts & divisions in all these & other areas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:02:22 GMT
It may be easier for us if I refrain for now. But thank you very much. It's okay. I am rather unskilled in addressing certain areas and questions. Thank you for understanding. This forum / platform is very limited. i felt very strongly & still do that the general ways that i have been treated with my mental health condition have not been very good. i have felt very strongly that the general understandings & approaches / treatment to mental health should be a lot better. i have tried to argue for & campaign for what i feel are better understandings & approaches to all these areas. i am however a service user / layman / sufferer / survivor - i have no professional health qualifications, i am not a therapist / psychologist / health professional. i can't offer professional mental health services - only a simply discussion forum, & my own personal flawed opinion / perspective on things. i've increasingly given up with fighting the system / arguing for a different system in the same way. There is a lot of division & hate on the internet. Anyone can find links / information / groups for any argument that they like - anyone can create a platform for their own views. i have tried my best to remain impartial & try & do something to help the suffering of the mentally ill. All said & done i am someone with long term / severe mental health difficulties, who has set up & run this site on my own, & have continuing struggles. i can't do more than what i have presented. People can take it or leave & make up their own mind on everything. i don't know how to address more fully certain arguments / conflicts & divisions in all these & other areas. We all have limitations. But your experience, in my opinion, makes you more qualified than most to reform mental health care. That is a great resource that you have--- being a sufferer. I'm sorry it happened. But sometimes what we go through can be beneficial to others. And it has been.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:08:47 GMT
I have resigned to now being dependent of anti-psychotic medication for life.
But if we regulars speak out on this, the ones in power--- those with any decency--- they must respond.
Give us alternatives. Stop making us dependent when we don't have to be.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:11:27 GMT
There are so many mental health sufferers who cannot communicate as well. They cannot advocate for themselves.
Don't give up.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2020 12:18:13 GMT
I have resigned to now being dependent of anti-psychotic medication for life. But if we regulars speak out on this, the ones in power--- those with any decency--- they must respond. Give us alternatives. Stop making us dependent when we don't have to be. i agree. For the past 15 years i have had to reluctantly accept a diagnosis of severe schizophrenia & medication for life. Within a more ideal society / system / with better treatment, i don't necessarily think that this would have had to be the outcome. i also have to live within the realities of this society / system & accept that we are not in a more ideal World with wonderful mental health treatment. i don't see what else i could have or can do about it all? Intuitively i felt that a lot of the treatment was wrong in the past, then i researched the whole area & found that there were imo far better understanding & treatment approaches to psychosis / mental illness. But what do i do about it all? i argued for such alternatives for 20 years - it makes no difference to the wider society / system & my own situation / circumstances, just creates a load more argument & conflict.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:19:46 GMT
I have resigned to now being dependent of anti-psychotic medication for life. But if we regulars speak out on this, the ones in power--- those with any decency--- they must respond. Give us alternatives. Stop making us dependent when we don't have to be. i agree. For the past 15 years i have had to reluctantly accept a diagnosis of severe schizophrenia & medication for life. Within a more ideal society / system / with better treatment, i don't necessarily think that this would have had to be the outcome. i also have to live within the realities of this society / system & accept that we are not in a more ideal World with wonderful mental health treatment. i don't see what else i could have or can do about it all? Intuitively i felt that a lot of the treatment was wrong in the past, then i researched the whole area & found that there were imo far better understanding & treatment approaches to psychosis / mental illness. But what do i do about it all? i argued for such alternatives for 20 years - it makes no difference to the wider society / system & my own situation / circumstances, just creates a load more argument & conflict. Be a Voice. An advocate. I'll do anything I can to help in whatever way is needed. It's very serious when the vulnerable and disadvantaged don't get justice.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2020 12:25:01 GMT
Be a Voice. An advocate. I'll do anything I can to help in whatever way is needed. It's very serious when the vulnerable and disadvantaged don't get justice. i've done my bit as best that i have been able. Created this page / resource - campaigned around it all for 20 years. Presented a case with what i see as better understandings & approaches to the whole are - On a practical & pragmatic basis there is imo more what can be considered to be mental illness - some mild & some severe - more what can be considered to be spiritual crisis / emergence & more what can be considered to be differential (both mental illness & spiritual crisis / emergence). Cases are individual. There are spectrum's / degrees of mental illness & good mental health - insanity & sanity. Differential Diagnosis healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/1333/differential-diagnosisOne way to try & move towards clearing all this up is to have fully integrated & comprehensive health & social care systems for all people, based on an individualised integral / holistic model (that includes all areas of the biomedical / psychiatry / science, as well as all the fields of psychology. sociology &all the areas of the soul / spiritual / transpersonal (experiences beyond the ego). Holistic, Integrated View of Mental Health healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/259/holistic-integrated-view-mental-healthI think that also everyone connected to all these areas should be singing from the same hymn sheet in working towards creating healing centres within every community - again for all people - Comprehensive community approaches to mental illness healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/3756/comprehensive-community-approaches-mental-illnessIntimations of a Collective Evolution to a Better World healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/1330/intimations-collective-evolution-world?page=1There hasn't been a lot of interest in this project or my vision of things / these areas. i am working with someone to try & take the project further & have 2 people that may help with a book - However other than slowly plodding on with that i'm done with it all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:38:00 GMT
Be a Voice. An advocate. I'll do anything I can to help in whatever way is needed. It's very serious when the vulnerable and disadvantaged don't get justice. i've done my bit as best that i have been able. Created this page / resource - campaigned around it all for 20 years. Presented a case with what i see as better understandings & approaches to the whole are - On a practical & pragmatic basis there is imo more what can be considered to be mental illness - some mild & some severe - more what can be considered to be spiritual crisis / emergence & more what can be considered to be differential (both mental illness & spiritual crisis / emergence). Cases are individual. There are spectrum's / degrees of mental illness & good mental health - insanity & sanity. Differential Diagnosis healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/1333/differential-diagnosisOne way to try & move towards clearing all this up is to have fully integrated & comprehensive health & social care systems for all people, based on an individualised integral / holistic model (that includes all areas of the biomedical / psychiatry / science, as well as all the fields of psychology. sociology &all the areas of the soul / spiritual / transpersonal (experiences beyond the ego). Holistic, Integrated View of Mental Health healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/259/holistic-integrated-view-mental-healthI think that also everyone connected to all these areas should be singing from the same hymn sheet in working towards creating healing centres within every community - again for all people - Comprehensive community approaches to mental illness healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/3756/comprehensive-community-approaches-mental-illnessIntimations of a Collective Evolution to a Better World healingsanctuary.proboards.com/thread/1330/intimations-collective-evolution-world?page=1There hasn't been a lot of interest in this project or my vision of things / these areas. i am working with someone to try & take the project further & have 2 people that may help with a book - However other than slowly plodding on with that i'm done with it all. Well, maybe there are other ways I can help. I'll start a thread listing my skills, strengths, and weaknesses. Might give you ideas.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2020 12:41:20 GMT
Well, maybe there are other ways I can help. I'll start a thread listing my skills, strengths, and weaknesses. Might give you ideas. We're classed as mentally ill / invalids - invalidated What do we do? On one level we have been / are mentally ill Of course we should be fully validated & treated a lot better - But we won't be . & there is nothing that we can do about other people & this wider society / system / treatment. Other than promote the project / forum i don't know what else to do? There isn't the interest in the project as i said above.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:46:45 GMT
Well, maybe there are other ways I can help. I'll start a thread listing my skills, strengths, and weaknesses. Might give you ideas. We're classed as mentally ill / invalids - invalidated What do we do? On one level we have been / are mentally ill Of course we should be fully validated & treated a lot better - But we won't be . & there is nothing that we can do about other people & this wider society / system / treatment. Other than promote the project / forum i don't know what else to do? There isn't the interest in the project as i said above. Are you asking me or is that rhetorical. I have ideas.
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Post by Admin on Apr 15, 2020 12:50:44 GMT
Are you asking me or is that rhetorical. I have ideas. It needs people who share the same vision with it all - who agree with the main project outline / documents - inclusive of everyone, however also people singing from the same hymn sheet - otherwise it's pointless, & we're back to all the same arguments / conflicts.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 12:54:33 GMT
Are you asking me or is that rhetorical. I have ideas. It needs people who share the same vision with it all - who agree with the main project outline / documents - inclusive of everyone, however also people singing from the same hymn sheet - otherwise it's pointless, & we're back to all the same arguments / conflicts. I don't see a conflict with my beliefs and mental health advocacy. Even if I have to work in a secular fashion--- as long as mental health sufferers have a voice on board. I can put aside argument for the greater good. I don't even feel the need to agree with it all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 13:04:43 GMT
Are you asking me or is that rhetorical. I have ideas. It needs people who share the same vision with it all - who agree with the main project outline / documents - inclusive of everyone, however also people singing from the same hymn sheet - otherwise it's pointless, & we're back to all the same arguments / conflicts. I suppose Id see you as the boss of things. You don't dictate how your boss wants to accomplish things. You just try to be helpful for the sake of getting things done.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2020 13:07:35 GMT
It may be easier for us if I refrain for now. But thank you very much. It's okay. I am rather unskilled in addressing certain areas and questions. Thank you for understanding. This forum / platform is very limited. i felt very strongly & still do that the general ways that i have been treated with my mental health condition have not been very good. i have felt very strongly that the general understandings & approaches / treatment to mental health should be a lot better. i have tried to argue for & campaign for what i feel are better understandings & approaches to all these areas. i am however a service user / layman / sufferer / survivor - i have no professional health qualifications, i am not a therapist / psychologist / health professional. i can't offer professional mental health services - only a simply discussion forum, & my own personal flawed opinion / perspective on things. i've increasingly given up with fighting the system / arguing for a different system in the same way. There is a lot of division & hate on the internet. Anyone can find links / information / groups for any argument that they like - anyone can create a platform for their own views. i have tried my best to remain impartial & try & do something to help the suffering of the mentally ill. All said & done i am someone with long term / severe mental health difficulties, who has set up & run this site on my own, & have continuing struggles. i can't do more than what i have presented. People can take it or leave & make up their own mind on everything. i don't know how to address more fully certain arguments / conflicts & divisions in all these & other areas. Relentless, shameless, and effective promotion of this forum is available. I can get the right people's attention.
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