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Post by snowstorm on Jun 24, 2019 14:43:29 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 14:47:19 GMT
But the basis to all of these civilisations / empires is money / politics / religions - never any different is it? Is that what nature operates on?
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Post by snowstorm on Jun 24, 2019 14:58:18 GMT
But the basis to all of these civilisations / empires is money / politics / religions - never any different is it? Is that what nature operates on? Human nature? Basic needs/drives I suppose, that have not much changed over time, though they get dressed up. Or do you mean Nature nature?
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:01:09 GMT
But the basis to all of these civilisations / empires is money / politics / religions - never any different is it? Is that what nature operates on? Human nature? Basic needs/drives I suppose, that have not much changed over time, though they get dressed up. Or do you mean Nature nature? What is human nature & is it fixed & the same within everyone? i meant non human nature yes.
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:02:30 GMT
Humans have also been around some 2 million years & i don't believe that for the vast majority of that time we had / used the systems - money / politics / religions that we do today.
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:04:26 GMT
Humans have also been around some 2 million years & i don't believe that for the vast majority of that time we had / used the systems - money / politics / religions that we do today. All the major World religions are really very recent - some past 7 thousand years - Abrahamic past 2 thousand years - money probably goes back about 7 thousand years, same as organised politics.
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:18:28 GMT
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Post by snowstorm on Jun 24, 2019 15:24:29 GMT
Humans have also been around some 2 million years & i don't believe that for the vast majority of that time we had / used the systems - money / politics / religions that we do today. I am not a history expert, just considering - exchanges rather than coins, tribal politics, spirituality and widely held beliefs. Different versions. The need for food, warmth, shelter etc. One of the big differences is how the population grew and moved - is that part of the reason for systems?
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
Humans have also been around some 2 million years & i don't believe that for the vast majority of that time we had / used the systems - money / politics / religions that we do today. I am not a history expert, just considering - exchanges rather than coins, tribal politics, spirituality and widely held beliefs. Different versions. The need for food, warmth, shelter etc. One of the big differences is how the population grew and moved - is that part of the reason for systems? Depends what versions of history you go with.
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Post by snowstorm on Jun 24, 2019 15:31:29 GMT
Depends what versions of history you go with. Ah, well, you'll have to expand on that
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 15:56:44 GMT
Depends what versions of history you go with. Ah, well, you'll have to expand on that We were stupid un-evolved ape like creatures living & caves & slowly we evolved to the wonders of this modern civilisation, mainly over the past 7 thousand years - the real progress didn't start happening until about 2 thousand year ago & within the past 400 years the progress has been incredible. Right?
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Post by snowstorm on Jun 24, 2019 16:07:36 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 16:23:51 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 24, 2019 16:27:07 GMT
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Post by Admin on Jun 25, 2019 9:27:52 GMT
Over the past 20 years of closely examining all the extreme anti & extreme pro biomedical psychiatry arguments - i have observed something - as far as i can tell none of them have / do suffer with severe mental illness. Both camps annoy me as much as each other.
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